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Within days of joining the 12th Royal Lancers, John was posted to France as part of the occupation forces following the battle of Trafalgar!                    (And only 16 years old)

 

Two family stories have been passed down to explain the  disappearance of John in about 1848 - both are possible:

1.   He was 'done away with' (murdered) by ex prisoners from Kirkdale Prison.  A newspaper report around the time of his disappearance indicated that a body was found in a town well. Not conclusive that it was John ANGUS  

2.  John 'shot thru' withJane HORNBY, the wife of a friend and neighbour, a local merchant.  Believed to have sailed to New York then went to California.

The English and probable Scottish Beginnings

The ANGUS name is recorded back to the beginning of Scottish history and many stories have been told of persons holding that name.   I have traced my family back to 1799 with the marriage of Lewis ANGUS to Catherine SCOTT (born Carlisle, CUMBRIA) at St. Nicholas Church, Gosforth, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England. 

I am presently working on the theory that Lewis may be the son of John ANGUS and Helen WINCHESTER who were married at St. Nicholas Church, Aberdeen, Scotland on 30 October 1769.
Children of John & Helen:
   George Inglis  c. 23 April 1773           at Colinton, Midlothian
   Lewis             c. 17 December 1775  at South Leith, Midlothian
   John               b. 1779                      at Midlothian
   Thomas          c. 17 July 1781           at North Leith, Midlothian
   Helen             b. 1786

Lewis ANGUS & Catherine (Scott) had at at least 2 children -

1.  John ANGUS.     John was born on 26 December 1800 and christened on the 8th February 1801 in the Chapel Royal of  St Peter ad Vincula, H.M. Tower of London.   John is believed to have been educated at the Prince of York Military School and on the 13th June 1816 he joined the 12th Royal Lancers, Regimental No. 108.  I have much of his 'Lancers' military history which identifies the many areas they were posted to.  More than once he moved up and down the ranks, from private to Sergeant, and spent some time (August 1821 - February 1822) in the 'care of the civil power' in Ireland The nature of the offence is unknown.  After this detention John returned to his unit in Cork.  John eventually left the military on the 11th  November 1836.

In December 1836 he was appointed an Inspector of Police in the newly formed Liverpool Constabulary.  Around 1842 he again changed employment when he worked as a 'warder' and 'Turnkey' at the Kirkdale Prison near Liverpool, before apparently disappearing in 1848. John ANGUS' 1st wife is unknown at this time but would have died prior to him marrying Eliza HARTLEY on 9 September 1837.   Eliza was born at Liverpool on the 8th February 1811.  They had at least 4 children:  (all christened at St.Peter, Church St. LIVERPOOL)

Fanny (1840 - ?)          Lewis (1842 - 1852)

John (1844 - 1933)       Robert Alexander (1848 - 1932).

2.  Catherine ANGUS. Born 1803 in Scotland.  She married a Robert GIBB (occupation - Cutler/Surgical Instrument Maker) in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCOTLAND on 30 July 1826.  Robert and Catherine's first known child - Catherine Scott GIBB, born Glasgow on 7th November 1830.  The family later moved to Liverpool where their other children were born - Lewis Robert, Christina, Maria & Robert.  Like her brother John, the children were all christened at St.Peter, Church St. LIVERPOOL

N.B. There was also a Margaret Cross GIBB born to a Robert GIBB & Catherine ANGUS in August the same year about a couple of miles from where Catherine Scott GIBB was born - a theory is that the parents are the same and Margaret may have been registered by them to 'Legitimise her birth' as her natural parents may have been unwed - a definite embarrassment in those times. I hope that time and effort will eventually sort this one out.

I believe it is most likely there are other children to Lewis & Catherine.  It has taken over 25 years to find their daughter Catherine (b. 1803)  I hope the next children don't take that long.

Family members are noted as having lived at various locations in LIVERPOOL, BOOTLE, KIRKDALE, WEST DERBY & TOXTETH PARK

I am still trying to find out what happened to Fanny, last noted in the 1871 census and living with her mother Eliza and her 7 month old son Lewis ANGUS in TOXTETH PARK.  Fanny is noted as unmarried at that time.

 

                                          

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